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Study: Guns, Germs, and Steel was Wrong

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15 years. Metafilter loved that book so hard. So so so so hard. And the book is like what, 800 pages (looked it up, it's 480).

For years it bothered me so much, because I knew from hearing the main thrusts of the book and the reception of it that it had issues, but I had way too much going on to read it, write a treatise on it, and then defend that on Metafilter.

I came across a video on Youtube (not this one) called something like "Why white men conquered the world", clearly titled by what seems like a decent guy, as clickbait to get you to watch. Over 20 minutes, he then distills the major points of Diamond's book.

I had *feelings* about it and some specific points in mind, and then serendipitously those feelings showed up elsewhere today in regard to a different thing and so ultimately I looked for critiques of Diamond's book and found this, which is nice.

The part about why the book was so popular...chef's kiss...cause it says a lot.

It bothers me so much that so many things are completely wrong, but who has time to take someone else's argument it takes months to take in, go through it line by line and explain the issues, then put that out, and try to explain it.

And I say that because not only am I nowhere near the smartest person on this or any other site and definitely not metafilter, but that absolute fact means why cant the smart people see the obvious errors in pieces like this.

Long story short, men suck.

It's been 15 years so I suppose I should keep coming back to this post to discuss this, instead of dropping it here like the matter is finished.
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0y3ahSansAcut3 21 hours ago
I would say, though, humans of any gender, have the opportunity to suck, and frequently do, to gain personal advantage, even if for only a second, at the candy dish.
williwaw pro 21 hours ago
I'd like to watch this before I say anymore, but there's a direct road between Guns, Germs, & Steel and believing aliens built ancient civilizations.
williwaw pro 21 hours ago
You might also enjoy "Questioning Collapse," a book brought about SPECIFICALLY because anthropologists had to have a SPECIAL MEETING in 2006 to address just how WRONG the assertions in Collapse and Guns were, and how it was affecting their science: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...
mashcan 17 hours ago
@williwaw Thank you!
travis pro 15 hours ago
Rebecca is a great follow, I try to watch all her videos

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